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3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 05, 2009 - 9:57AM #31
DrVenkman
Posts: 77
If it aired as a special here, no one told me! I actually remember Billy Red Lyons hyping up a Copps show saying it was "presented by CHCH" (the station most Southern Ontarians watched WWE programming on, though I also watched Superstars and Challenge off Detroit affiliates) leading my cousin and I to believe it was airing on CHCH, but no dice.

Usually, "Maple Leaf Wrestling" and "WWF Cavalcade" were just Superstars and Challenge with Canadian content, but I do recall watching a show on Saturday evenings that sometimes had stuff that wasn't on Superstars (off hand, I can recall a match from a live event airing where Repo Man beat Jimmy Snuka after Snuka missed a flip from the top rope). It might have aired on that show.
3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 05, 2009 - 6:31PM #32
js560000
Posts: 22

Nov 5, 2009 -- 8:51AM, WWECLASSICS.com wrote:

Nov 5, 2009 -- 8:44AM, landy1987 wrote:

Just a few questions.

Will Undertaker month consist of 5 weeks of updates with November 30 been on a Monday? Or will the December theme start then and be 5 weeks? Or do you take a break over Christmas time?

By the way, will you be changing the description of the Undertaker / Tugboat match so it's from Copps Coliseum as it's definitely from there. Was this match only aired in Canada back in 91 as the commentary in the match said they were one week away from WrestleMania 7 and Sean Mooney was talking about how fans in Canada could see the event. Does anyone know did the full show air or just select matches?

That 11/30/91 Copps show you can't find should exist I hope. The only example I have is a Warlord / Greg Valentine match from that Copps show airing on the 1/6/92 Prime Time Wrestling and maybe parts of the show aired just in Canada?


Undertaker month is 4 weeks. We discussed a few weeks ago that we will not have a full break during Christmas but that week we'll air Joey Styles "Top Ten Original ECW Moments". There won't be any Raw/Challenge/Superstars that week though.

We're going to change the name to Copps today actually.  We're a little perplexed over the commentary as well.  The show aired in January but they do talk about WrestleMania which leads us to believe it aired as a television special in Canada. 

The 11/30/1991 Copps show is still MIA.  If we saw it and it had commentary we would have aired it this month no questions asked.


Nice work, Landy. It probably doesn't have commentary, which is unfortunate.

3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 06, 2009 - 11:04AM #33
landy1987
Posts: 106

Nov 5, 2009 -- 8:51AM, WWECLASSICS.com wrote:



The 11/30/1991 Copps show is still MIA.  If we saw it and it had commentary we would have aired it this month no questions asked.


I just thought of something. It could be possible the tape is labelled wrong either date or location. I've done a little check into which Copps shows actually exist on tape and there isn't many as Maple Leaf Gardens was mostly used for the taped shows in Canada.

These are the only Copps shows that exist to my knowledge - if you have time would you be able to look into them to see if it's labelled wrong perhaps and what shows you have? I've listed in brackets the main event on each show if it helps:

Copps Coliseum shows:
12/29/87 (Hulk Hogan vs Butch Reed)
3/13/88 (Hogan & Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Ted DiBiase & Virgil)
12/4/88 (Hogan vs. Big Bossman)
1/16/89 (Randy Savage vs. Bad News Brown)
5/1/89 (Battle Royal which is available on WWEClassics.com already)
12/14/89 (Hulk Hogan vs. Mr. Perfect)
7/27/90 (Randy Savage vs. Dusty Rhodes)
1/25/91 (you know of this already with Taker vs. Tugboat)
11/30/91 (Undertaker vs British Bulldog)

Hope this is of use to you.

And that's it for taped Copps shows as far as I know

3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 06, 2009 - 11:59AM #34
js560000
Posts: 22

Nov 6, 2009 -- 11:04AM, landy1987 wrote:

Nov 5, 2009 -- 8:51AM, WWECLASSICS.com wrote:

Nov 5, 2009 -- 8:44AM, landy1987 wrote:



The 11/30/1991 Copps show is still MIA.  If we saw it and it had commentary we would have aired it this month no questions asked.


I just thought of something. It could be possible the tape is labelled wrong either date or location. I've done a little check into which Copps shows actually exist on tape and there isn't many as Maple Leaf Gardens was mostly used for the taped shows in Canada.

These are the only Copps shows that exist to my knowledge - if you have time would you be able to look into them to see if it's labelled wrong perhaps and what shows you have? I've listed in brackets the main event on each show if it helps:

Copps Coliseum shows:
12/29/87 (Hulk Hogan vs Butch Reed)
3/13/88 (Hogan & Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Ted DiBiase & Virgil)
12/4/88 (Hogan vs. Big Bossman)
1/16/89 (Randy Savage vs. Bad News Brown)
5/1/89 (Battle Royal which is available on WWEClassics.com already)
12/14/89 (Hulk Hogan vs. Mr. Perfect)
7/27/90 (Randy Savage vs. Dusty Rhodes)
1/25/91 (you know of this already with Taker vs. Tugboat)
11/30/91 (Undertaker vs British Bulldog)

Hope this is of use to you.

And that's it for taped Copps shows as far as I know


The 3/13/88 Hogan & Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Ted DiBiase & Virgil will be on the Hulk Hogan: The Unreleased Archives)

If you want more of a reference matches from those shows they had

5/1/89
Demolition vs the twin towers
The Ultimate Warrior vs Rick Rude,

12/14/89
Hart Foundation vs The Rockers,

7/27/90
Tito Santana vs Mr. Perfect,

1/25/91
Roddy Piper vs Mr. Perfect

3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 06, 2009 - 6:05PM #35
Tane
Posts: 38
speaking of Hard to find footage.....Does the Match Between the Rockers and the Hart Foundation, where the Rope Broke, and the Rockers won the titles Exist? I know they didn't air it because the Rope broke, and instead of redoing it at the next venue, They just scrapped the entire Idea. Well, It must have been taped. That Would be really cool to see, and it would be a world Premier, exclusive to wweclassics.com


Or, Does WWE want to keep pretending this never happened?
3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 06, 2009 - 7:02PM #36
wrestlingfan99
Posts: 152
its on the latest hbk dvd
3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 06, 2009 - 7:22PM #37
Tane
Posts: 38
Well, you're right. Never seen the DVD or , obviously, the match. I'm gonna go try and find it now.
3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 06, 2009 - 11:15PM #38
WWECLASSICS.com
Posts: 593

Nov 6, 2009 -- 6:05PM, Tane wrote:

speaking of Hard to find footage.....Does the Match Between the Rockers and the Hart Foundation, where the Rope Broke, and the Rockers won the titles Exist? I know they didn't air it because the Rope broke, and instead of redoing it at the next venue, They just scrapped the entire Idea. Well, It must have been taped. That Would be really cool to see, and it would be a world Premier, exclusive to wweclassics.com


Or, Does WWE want to keep pretending this never happened?


It's actually re-airing this January!

3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 07, 2009 - 1:09AM #39
js560000
Posts: 22

Nov 6, 2009 -- 11:15PM, WWECLASSICS.com wrote:

Nov 6, 2009 -- 6:05PM, Tane wrote:

speaking of Hard to find footage.....Does the Match Between the Rockers and the Hart Foundation, where the Rope Broke, and the Rockers won the titles Exist? I know they didn't air it because the Rope broke, and instead of redoing it at the next venue, They just scrapped the entire Idea. Well, It must have been taped. That Would be really cool to see, and it would be a world Premier, exclusive to wweclassics.com


Or, Does WWE want to keep pretending this never happened?


It's actually re-airing this January!


With commentary?

3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 07, 2009 - 9:14AM #40
WWECLASSICS.com
Posts: 593

Nov 7, 2009 -- 1:09AM, js560000 wrote:

Nov 6, 2009 -- 11:15PM, WWECLASSICS.com wrote:

Nov 6, 2009 -- 6:05PM, Tane wrote:

speaking of Hard to find footage.....Does the Match Between the Rockers and the Hart Foundation, where the Rope Broke, and the Rockers won the titles Exist? I know they didn't air it because the Rope broke, and instead of redoing it at the next venue, They just scrapped the entire Idea. Well, It must have been taped. That Would be really cool to see, and it would be a world Premier, exclusive to wweclassics.com


Or, Does WWE want to keep pretending this never happened?


It's actually re-airing this January!


With commentary?


Haven't seen the match yet.  But it will air exactly as it did on the Bret Hart DVD.

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