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4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 02, 2009 - 3:09PM #51
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Nov 1, 2009 -- 10:52PM, Bambiღ1/2 of Defining Beauty wrote:

1. Who is your favorite diva?
2.Who is your favorite knockout?
3.Who is your favorite Shimmer girl?
4.Who would you make divas champion?
5.Who would you make womens champion?
6.Who would you make knockouts champion?
7.Name 1 diva to fire
8.Name 1 knockout to fire
9.Name 1 diva to return full time
10.Name 1 knockout to return full time

Yes I am bored x]


1. current- michelle mccool past-lita/trish
2. tara/velvet sky
3. dont watch shimmer.
4. eve, because the divas championship should be for upcoming divas that arent ready for the womens championship.
5. natayla and maybe layla even
6. velvet sky or madison rayne
7. bella **** (they count as one to me)
8. lacey von erich
9. lita
10. shelly martinez/salinas/ariel

Formmerly known as Spikette

I respect and like Chloe Brooke,
Proud fan of SD!, Mickie James, Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase, Layla, Michelle McCool and Beth phoneix

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4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 02, 2009 - 3:19PM #52
white stripes sabin
Posts: 3145

Hahahaa this is too funny. Soo cute how you even labeled her weak points. Well like I said before you don't have to even talk about it because I have a pretty clear view of what you think about her. Okay so you are basically saying McCool is an ugly tranny who sucks besides her wrestling which still sucks? Hahah alrighty then. I don't fvcking care about all the other shlt you're saying because think about how much time do Divas get on the mic? Or in matches? Not much.

Everyone I repeat EVERYONE knows the Divas are no where near up to par with other promotions and the fact it displeases you why even bother? If WWE Divas are a joke to you why are you watching them? I have heard all of this before. But anyways I see you point with the opinion thing, but I get the impression you have to be right about EVERYTHING which is annoying and you don't have to come off so aggressively. For example when you said you would fire McCool because she looks like a tranny obviously people are gonna think you want to fire her for her looks. Next time you could just say in general you don't like her if "98% doesn't have to do with looks" than don't talk about her looks talk about the other 98% DUH(In your first post for the reason for firing her)!! So you basically have nothing positive to say about McCool and you would fire her over the countless other Divas who are lacking in ring skills. Shows how intelligent you are. Seriously it bothers me that you wouldn't even keep her as a jobber if WWE were to hire talent from Shimmer and gut the eyecandies. At least keep the ones that could wrestle. And you're expectations are too damn high for WWE!! Since you like Shimmer and TNA so much just stick with that. And don't even talk about Lacey Von Erich you hypocrite because I remember you saying Lacey would make an excellent addition to the KO's...

I'm gonna say this one last time. If you have access to countless number of matches from zillions of promotions than why don't you stick to that and stop watching "the mediocre work by Divas." You come off disrespectful IMO, but hey you like confrontation so have fun doing this for everyday of your life. There are WAYY more important things going on in the world and you are complaining about a female wrestler.. Kudos to you..


That may be how I come off to some/many/whatever. I'm very short and abrupt and it may come off abrasive to some. Big whoop. But then again, the people always trying to be PC or apologists or always stating "well, it's my opinion" as if any statement is not, may come off just as annoying/frustrating/inflammatory as me, depending on who you are. But, you'll notice, I don't immediately invalidate their opinions. My arguments/discussions may be in a tone people aren't gaga over, but better that they be argument discussion and not "NUH-UH, YOU'RE WRONG, MY OPINION NO WAY YOU CAN SAY OTHERWISE"

Beyond that, I've already had this discussion. If I'm not stating my opinion in the way that I speak, in my specific tone...then why bother at all? If I'm giving you a toned down opinion, or a PC one or changing my way of speech to suit another...then it's not really me stating my opinion, is it? It's me stating what other people want to hear. And why would anyone wanna hear a review/opinion/critique if it's the SAME thing that everyone else is saying or a false opinion?

Swears do not inherently depict a lowered vocabulary or inability to come up with a fitting word or description, because a swear in itself is indicative of a state of emotion/mind/etc. Swears are a lot more telling then you think, in ways you do not seem to realize. Swears can be just as expressive as any other word. Besides, I'm a writer. Hyperbole is my A game.

Beyond that, swearing has nothing to do with anything. It's a distraction tactic when people can't actually argue the point; "Well, you're swearing up a storm, so I shouldn't even take what you say seriously." Which is avoidance of the actual argument, something that goes on a lot here. Attacking the argument, it's weaknesses or faults, THAT is what you should do.

I like to think that attacking how I say something is more showing than that. In that, you can't argue my actual point so you have to go around and attack something else. Which is more telling of other people's ability to argue with me then anything about my delivery.

RE: McCool

The mic excuse is a talking point that Diva apologist use very often, but it just doesn't hold weight when it comes to pro wrestling. A Diva doesn't have to get 20 minutes in the ring to cut a promo for it to be effective. A few months ago Katie Lea came to the ring on a microphone and cut a promo against Burchill's opponent(or something along the lines thereof). It wasn't even 30 seconds long, but in that short time frame she came off as confident and her delivery was believable. It worked.

Compare those few seconds to the minutes that McCool,Melina,and others get and there really is no excuse. Read Chris Jericho's book, he talks about how he got better at promos. At first no one would give him mic time. He would practice in the mirror,etc to get better. I know the majority of WWE promos are scripted, but McCool's delivery just sounds so uncomfortable as she struggles to remember her lines and if given bullet points in some sections (if not the whole thing) fails at being a convincing heel and sounds like someone trying to get tough rather then actually being tough.

"The matches are too short", is something else Diva apologist have to say. What does having a 4 minute match have to do with being able to do a drop kick properly? What does having a 5 minute match have ANYTHING to do with not tripping over yourself in the ring or messing up constantly? Guys wrestle 5 minutes matches as well and they aren't as bad as The Divas. So the whole 'they don't have enough time' excuse is lame. Look at what happens with the women ARE given enough time: Maryse vs. Mickie James NOC. Maryse (a homegrown WWE talent) was LOST. Completely lost. That match EXPOSED Maryse, but I guess if they were just giving more time then they would have gotten better?

Having short matches doesn't mean a wrestler is automatically going to be bad. If I knew that all my matches were going to be under 6 minutes, then I would want to perfect the small stuff. On my spare time I would watch tape and ask other wrestlers different techniques. I would isolate and find out what I can do well and what I suck at. So when it comes time for my 5 minute TV match on Raw, I will not embarrass myself.

Why do I watch The Divas? Because I think they are hot. I also like to see the progress of some. Little gems can be found in Eve and Layla matches and anytime Nicole Bella and Katie Lea are wrestling, I am automatically going to watch. The Divas division is like a train wreck on most occasions and people can't pull their eyes off of one. There is more to wrestling then just wrestling, the entertainment factor plays into this which brings me to my next point...

Why would I keep other Divas with less ring skill then McCool, but fire her? A dropkick can be taught. A headlock can be taught. Charisma cannot. Other elements of a successful wrestler cannot be taught. Being able to connect with the crowd and get them to care about you THAT CANNOT BE TAUGHT. McCool has better execution of moves then a lot of other Divas on the roster, but that's not important to me because I need the entire package for me to care about a wrestler. If I want to see cool moves I can pop in a tape of ROH 2006.

How are my expectations too high? Because I would like to see the women NOT stumble through a match and be able to execute the few moves that they do, in a way that makes them look like real professional wrestlers and not the wrestlers boyfriends who convinced Vince in the back to let them go out in the ring and have some fun.So I'm a bad person because I think Maryse should figure out a way to stop killing heat during her matches and slapping on the camel clutch? My expectations are too high because I think Kelly Kelly should be a bit more crisp in the execution of a move she has done on more then one occasion?

You are complaining about someone complaining about a female wrestler. You are in the same boat. Different level...but the same boat.

Saying pro wrestling and MMA and boxing are all the same is a bit like saying ducks, swans and geese are all the same. Sure, they share some common DNA, but they're still clearly different.
4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 02, 2009 - 5:01PM #53
K2= Kelly Kelly Squared *Holler*
Posts: 880

Nov 1, 2009 -- 10:52PM, Bambiღ1/2 of Defining Beauty wrote:

1. Who is your favorite diva?
2.Who is your favorite knockout?
3.Who is your favorite Shimmer girl?
4.Who would you make divas champion?
5.Who would you make womens champion?
6.Who would you make knockouts champion?
7.Name 1 diva to fire
8.Name 1 knockout to fire
9.Name 1 diva to return full time
10.Name 1 knockout to return full time

Yes I am bored x]


1-Lita
2-Angelina Love
3-None
4-Kelly
5-Maryse
6-Angelina
7-Rosa
8-Traci Brooks
9-Lita
10-Angelina

I Only Mark For...
Kelly Kelly
Maryse
Lita
Angelina Love

Kelly Kelly=Divas Champ(in 2010)
Maryse=Womens Champ(in 2010)
Lita=9x womens Champ(coming soon)
Angelina Love TNA KNOCKOUT CHAMP!(IN 2010)

Dont worry your haters are just confused admirers
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4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 02, 2009 - 5:03PM #54
"The Furor" Raymond Lewis "AKA The King of New School, The Future King of Extreme
Posts: 7976

Nov 1, 2009 -- 10:52PM, Bambiღ1/2 of Defining Beauty wrote:

1. Who is your favorite diva?
2.Who is your favorite knockout?
3.Who is your favorite Shimmer girl?
4.Who would you make divas champion?
5.Who would you make womens champion?
6.Who would you make knockouts champion?
7.Name 1 diva to fire
8.Name 1 knockout to fire
9.Name 1 diva to return full time
10.Name 1 knockout to return full time

Yes I am bored x]


1.Mickie James
2.Velvet Sky
3.MsChef
4.Jillian Hall
5.Natalya Neidhart
6.Velvet Sky
7.Maryse
8.Hamada
9.Lita
10.Angelina Love

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2x XMW Champion, 1x NOV Champion, 1x IWA Champion, 1x Surrender Hardcore Champion,1x Crush American Champion, 1x WCW Hardcore Champion,1x Crazyweight Champion
4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 02, 2009 - 5:11PM #55
Яσxxi [Thee California Dream] 1/3 of Katalya Perez
Posts: 509
1. Melina
2. Daffney/Velvet (current)
3. I never watched shimmer before(I wanna watch it soon)
4. Jillian
5. Nattie
6. Tara
7. Tiffany
8. Lacey Von Er****
9. Hm...Lita
10. ANGELINA ****' LOVE
I ♥ you JNH
My vision blurs,
My air wears thin,
Since the time you decided to leave the ring


Jeff Hardy for a return:
Starting 11-22-09, ending NEVER
4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 02, 2009 - 6:04PM #56
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Posts: 1569

Nov 1, 2009 -- 10:52PM, Bambiღ1/2 of Defining Beauty wrote:

1. Who is your favorite diva?
2.Who is your favorite knockout?
3.Who is your favorite Shimmer girl?
4.Who would you make divas champion?
5.Who would you make womens champion?
6.Who would you make knockouts champion?
7.Name 1 diva to fire
8.Name 1 knockout to fire
9.Name 1 diva to return full time
10.Name 1 knockout to return full time

Yes I am bored x]


1. Trish Stratus
2. Tara
3. n/a
4. Jillian
5. Natalya
6. Tara
7. Rosa
8. Kong
9. Trish Stratus
10. Tara

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4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 03, 2009 - 1:34PM #57
☠Marlene☠
Posts: 1875

Nov 1, 2009 -- 10:52PM, Bambiღ1/2 of Defining Beauty wrote:

1. Who is your favorite diva?
2.Who is your favorite knockout?
3.Who is your favorite Shimmer girl?
4.Who would you make divas champion?
5.Who would you make womens champion?
6.Who would you make knockouts champion?
7.Name 1 diva to fire
8.Name 1 knockout to fire
9.Name 1 diva to return full time
10.Name 1 knockout to return full time

Yes I am bored x]


1.Beth Phoenix
2. Daffney
3. .....
4. Jillian
5. Natalya
6. Alyssa Flash
7. Smelly Kelly
8. Lacey Von Erich
9. Trish Stratus
10. Angelina Love

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4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 03, 2009 - 1:53PM #58
Mr_Phoenix
Posts: 6293

Nov 1, 2009 -- 10:52PM, Bambiღ1/2 of Defining Beauty wrote:

1. Who is your favorite diva?
2.Who is your favorite knockout?
3.Who is your favorite Shimmer girl?
4.Who would you make divas champion?
5.Who would you make womens champion?
6.Who would you make knockouts champion?
7.Name 1 diva to fire
8.Name 1 knockout to fire
9.Name 1 diva to return full time
10.Name 1 knockout to return full time

Yes I am bored x]


1.Beth
2. Alissa Flash
3. Sarah del Rey
4. Jillian
5. Beth(face)
6. Alissa
7. Rosa
8. Traci Brooks
9. none
10. none

Beth Phoenix,the perfect combination of beauty and strength
Beth Phoenix,the next Womens Champion
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4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 03, 2009 - 3:31PM #59
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Posts: 6694
1. Who is your favorite diva? Mickie
2.Who is your favorite knockout? Tara
3.Who is your favorite Shimmer girl? dont watch Shimmer
4.Who would you make divas champion? im fine with whos champ right now
5.Who would you make womens champion? Beth
6.Who would you make knockouts champion? Tara
7.Name 1 diva to fire Bella Twins
8.Name 1 knockout to fire idk
9.Name 1 diva to return full time Torrie
10.Name 1 knockout to return full time Gail i guess
4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 03, 2009 - 4:33PM #60
★αlexx-яaven ☠ тнєє ηumber σne ℓita/נeff нardy мark ☠ #1 ∂eanna fan!★
Posts: 1942

Nov 1, 2009 -- 10:52PM, Bambiღ1/2 of Defining Beauty wrote:

1. Who is your favorite diva?
2.Who is your favorite knockout?
3.Who is your favorite Shimmer girl?
4.Who would you make divas champion?
5.Who would you make womens champion?
6.Who would you make knockouts champion?
7.Name 1 diva to fire
8.Name 1 knockout to fire
9.Name 1 diva to return full time
10.Name 1 knockout to return full time

Yes I am bored x]


1.Lita.

2.Tara
3.Dont really watch enough.
4.Melina
5.Beth Phoenix or Natalya
6.Tara or Alissa Flash
7.The Bellas or Kelly Kelly
8.Velvet Sky
9.Lita!
10.Angelina Love

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