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Jeff Jarret?
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 09, 2009 - 11:45AM #31
matt22
Posts: 1941

Nov 9, 2009 -- 10:19AM, (The Godfather) wrote:

Nov 8, 2009 -- 9:39PM, matt22 wrote:

Nov 8, 2009 -- 9:24PM, Kyle Is The Next wrote:

I don't like Jeff Jarrett as a wrestler. Sure he can put up great matches every now and then but I find him boring most of the time. And IMO, Jeff Jarrett is just another selfish politician, getting pushes and title wins from his backstage influence

I also hate he fact that TNA has talented wrestlers thatcan be involved in major storylines or be developed better than Jarrett, yet he has to be part of the main-event scene


he left the main event for three years, hes the reason tna started, the only reason he was champion for so long is because they wanted the right person to beat him and in the mean time they were putting him over old talent aka, nash and jeff hardy had backstage issues which in fact made him an unworthy candidate for the tna title, he made monty brown a bonifed main eventer and they made the xdivision at first it was basically daniels , aj , samoa joe and chris sabin all excelling, fact is tna was much better with jarret in charge and if he wants to perform for the ppl now and keep the company he helped for stay a good show then by all mean. he goes into the main event scene now man but does he win anymore.? give him props hes by no means greedy.


while i never was a fan of jarrett as a wrestler as in cheered for him you have to give the man an awful lot of credit for all the  effort he put into his company the second poster here is spot on if you think about it only for jarrett what where would the x division be today i shudder to think of aj styles jobbing on raw to a midget
i believe a lot of jarretts problems over the years were all russo based in fact russo seriously believed he could get jarrett to draw in the same capacity as hogan did in his prime which is just out right crazy that got him alot of heat in w c w dvd after and too the original poster who made this the easiest way to have a decent debate on here is to be in this forum the wwe forums are so biased at this point its impossible to have a civilised conversation trust me the only people who could say thay jarrett never achieved or was able to go in the ring are cena,batista,hardy or even the jericho marks


your right tna threads are one of the only places to have a decent debate man, nice avatar btw, like i said i give jarret credit for being a good wrestler a good champ and helping tna get where it is today, but the tna also had help from the men who came over, this is why i pointed out ur avatar kurt angle, sting and christian also helped tna get this big. and having superstars with the talent of aj styles, samoa joe, christopher daniels, motor city machine guns and jay lethal all helped as well,i could do without booker T tho kevin nash can still put on a match even if he is only in it for the money and even tho hes not great at all scott steiner is funny, i love tna i feel even tho not as glossy or nice as wwe in terms of looks they tend to put on better wrestling matches.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 09, 2009 - 2:38PM #32
Peter Kaymakcian
Posts: 3899
@Everyone trying to attack me:

1.) Does it hurt to know that a seventeen year old is smarter then you?

2.) The ratings were the same when Double J was around, so I don't know where you are getting they dropped. TNA has always averaged a low 1 rating and that has been consistent through out both Dixie and Double J's reign as head of TNA.

3.) So I'm guessing that is because of Double J? I mean it couldn't have been the talent that was actually being used? Also under Double J I would be forced into watching Sting vs Foley or some form of that in my PPV as a main event. Now if you like two old men who can't go anymore in your main event, fine by me, but as an intelligent person I enjoy seeing the gifted wrestlers used.

4.) The talent wasn't discontent under him because most of the talent was his friends.

5.) Also how is Angelina's visa issues Dixie Carter's fault? Seriously there was nothing TNA could've done because Love was the idiot who decided not to tell them about the problem. I mean what is Dixie Carter psychic? Did she secretly read Love's mind and then say to herself I hope she doesn't tell us about it that way we can fire her? I believe not, but I don't know Dixie personally so I couldn't tell you if she was psychic.

6.) Actually in Double J's plans he would still be feuding with EY, which means EY wouldn't have been apart of WE. So your point in Double J planning WE and EY getting a title is bs because he was scripted to feud with him.

7.) The KO tag titles was said, from various internet sources(i.e Ewrestlingnews.com and wrestlezone.com), that the KO tag titles idea was Dixie's idea. Again she could be psychic and stole Double J's idea.

8.) If I'm pathetic Chloe Brooke how come you mentioned me? I mean when I quote your posts its only because either:

a.) You were being an idiot and praising Love as the best thing to happen to TNA since the departure of Double J.

b.) You praise Double J's booking as if he wasn't the one booking Sting to win every BFG title match he was in.

c.) You post hate threads on Dixie Carter and offer no back up to your opinion other then calling her Dipstick Carter.

d.) All of the above.





Now if any of you want to try and put up a pitiful attempt to attack me/own me I will be more then willing to shut you down. As I am no longer annoyed by a certain individual right now so I am free to own. Although I will warn you anything post at 3:30 eastern time(pm) I will not be able to own you right away as I will be out playing football with my friends. Maybe you'll get lucky and one of them will knock my IQ down to your level. My IQ would only have to drop fifty or so points.
Wrestler's Name: Peter Kaymakcian
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 225 lbs.
Hometown: Asbury Park, NJ
Billed From: Asbury Park, NJ
Gimmick: A mixture of John Morrison and Edge
Alignment: Heel
Title History:
-CWW World Heavyweight Champion(x1)
-CWW Battlefield World Heavyweight Champion(1x)
-CWW TNW World Heavyweight Champion(1x)
-CWW Cage Champion(x1)
-CWE World Heavyweight Champion(1x)
-CWE Television Champion(x1)
-CWE Tag Team Champion(x2)
-CWE Extreme Champion(1x)
-ICW National Champion(1x)
-ECCW Surrender World Heavyweight Champion(1x)[current]
Other Accomplishment(s):
-CWW Hall of Fame Class 2009
-CWE Hall of Fame Class 2009
-First CWW Triple World Champion
-First ever CWW Battlefield World Champion
-First ever to hold both the CWW Championship and the CWW Battlefield World Championship
-Second CWW Triple Crown Champion
-Last ICW National Champion
Finishers: (Two Finishers max)
-Revolution(Leaping Spike Reverse STO)
-Star Power(corkscrew moonsault)
Move Set:
-Spotlight Kick(Super kick)
-Stunner
-Redemption(Reverse Impaler DDT)
-Southpaw Combo(Three left jabs followed by a right haymaker)
-K-Lock(Front-facelock with a body scissors)
-Tiger Feint Kick into a:
1.)Springboard Hurricanranna
2.)Springboard Legdrop
3.)Springboard Senton
4.)Springboard Drop Kick
5.)Springboard Tornado DDT
6.)Springboard Double Knees to the face
7.)Springboard Super Kick
-Frogsplash
-Rear Naked Choke
-Clothesline
-Spear
-Double Knee Facebuster
-Piledriver
-Sharpshooter
-Neckbreaker
-Figure-Four leglock
-Knife-Edge Chop
-Hurricanranna
-Ankle Lock
-German Suplex
-450 Splash
-Shooting Star Press

Name: Black Liger
Gimmick: Japanese masked wrestler
Titles:
-Lucha Libre Championship(current)
Height: 5'9
Weight: 195 lbs.
Moves:
-Tiger Feint Kick into a:
1.) Springboard Splash
2.) Springboard Leg Drop
3.) Springboard Senton
4.) Springboard Dropkick
5.) Springboard Hurricanranna
6.) Springboard Tornado DDT
-Moonsault
-DDT
-Springboard Roundhouse Kick
-Facebuster
Finisher(s):
Liger Strike(Jumping Cutter)
Liger Bite(Dragon Sleeper)

Wrestler Name: Damien Cain
Gimmick: "Unstoppable" Monster
Height: 7'0"
Weight: 335 lbs.
Titles:
-World Tag Team Championship(current)
Move Set:
-Ballistic Clothesline(High Impact Clothesline)
-Big Boot
-Darkness Kick(Running Big Boot)
-Throat Thrust
-Sidewalk Slam
-Powerslam
-Running Powerslam
-Powerbomb
Finisher(s):
1.) Mark of Cain(360 degree swinging sidewalk slam)
2.) Chokeslam to Hell(Kane's Chokeslam)

Wrestler Name: Diesel
Gimmick: Enforcer/Dominator
Titles:
-Battlefield Championship(1x)
-World Tag Team Championship(current)
Height: 7'0"
Weight: 300 lbs.
Move Set:
-Sidewalk Slam
-Chokeslam{Secondary Finisher}
-Diesel-Plex(Perfect-Plex)
-Spinebuster
-Big Boot
-Leg Drop
-Bear Hug
-Top Rope Elbow Drop(Treated as a finisher)
Finisher(s):
1.) Diesel Bomb(Jackknife Powerbomb)
2.) Spear
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 09, 2009 - 3:23PM #33
Aquifel
Posts: 3270

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:


@Everyone trying to attack me:

1.) Does it hurt to know that a seventeen year old is smarter then you?


Most likely they are younger, so I doubt they really mind that^^

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:


2.) The ratings were the same when Double J was around, so I don't know where you are getting they dropped. TNA has always averaged a low 1 rating and that has been consistent through out both Dixie and Double J's reign as head of TNA.


He is right here.

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:


3.) So I'm guessing that is because of Double J? I mean it couldn't have been the talent that was actually being used? Also under Double J I would be forced into watching Sting vs Foley or some form of that in my PPV as a main event. Now if you like two old men who can't go anymore in your main event, fine by me, but as an intelligent person I enjoy seeing the gifted wrestlers used.


I actually thought Sting vs. Foley was entertaining. Cheesy? Yes. Odd? Yes. A bad decision to have it as a world title match? Most definately. A even worse decision having Foley win? Amen. But still it had some rather unexplainable entertainment factor. Maybe that is laughing at two huge stars embarassing themselves, as laughing is better then bursting into tears (and it either is one or the other).

Anyway, Styles/Joe/Daniels is a Main Event that deserves to be a main event and a world title match and it will at least be good (except Russo has some "good" ideas).

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:


4.) The talent wasn't discontent under him because most of the talent was his friends.


And his friends never had anything to complain about.

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:


5.) Also how is Angelina's visa issues Dixie Carter's fault? Seriously there was nothing TNA could've done because Love was the idiot who decided not to tell them about the problem. I mean what is Dixie Carter psychic? Did she secretly read Love's mind and then say to herself I hope she doesn't tell us about it that way we can fire her? I believe not, but I don't know Dixie personally so I couldn't tell you if she was psychic.


In fact, if anybody, Jarrett should have found out about it/checked that issue long ago. I guess he had some words when it came to hiring her, so he should have looked into that. Sure, Dixie could have done that too, but she is not a psychic (well Jarrett is not either) and I guess she did not go around at that time, looking for new talent.

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:


6.) Actually in Double J's plans he would still be feuding with EY, which means EY wouldn't have been apart of WE. So your point in Double J planning WE and EY getting a title is bs because he was scripted to feud with him.


Well, I agree with you, still we would not have known how EY/Jarrett would have went. Maybe WE would feud with Jarrett.  Who knows?

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:


7.) The KO tag titles was said, from various internet sources(i.e Ewrestlingnews.com and wrestlezone.com), that the KO tag titles idea was Dixie's idea. Again she could be psychic and stole Double J's idea.


Well, she realised the Knockouts are always one of the, if not the highest rated segments of Impact. Anyway, I love the idea and hope that we soon see a match like Sarita & Wilde vs. Hamada & Flash. Or MsChif & Flash vs. Awesome Kong & Wesna Busic (well, Busic and MsChif are not in TNA, but this match could be huge, considering that MsChif and Melissa regularly teamed in Shimmer and Kong & Busic in Japan).

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:


8.) If I'm pathetic Chloe Brooke how come you mentioned me? I mean when I quote your posts its only because either:

a.) You were being an idiot and praising Love as the best thing to happen to TNA since the departure of Double J.

b.) You praise Double J's booking as if he wasn't the one booking Sting to win every BFG title match he was in.

c.) You post hate threads on Dixie Carter and offer no back up to your opinion other then calling her Dipstick Carter.

d.) All of the above.


Well she seems to be a Love and a Jarrett mark. What do you expect?

Face it people, WWE is not the only thing out there.
Promotions I also/preferably watch (some of them a lot, some of them a bit):
TNA, ROH, PWG, Chikara, DGUSA, CZW, SHIMMER, NWA/WCW, wXw, NJPW, AJPW, BJPW, Dragon Gate, Pro Wrestling NOAH

R.I.P. Mitsuharu Misawa
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 09, 2009 - 5:13PM #34
♥Chloe Brooke♥1/2 of Defining Beauty
Posts: 472

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:

@Everyone trying to attack me:

1.) Does it hurt to know that a seventeen year old is smarter then you?


No it doesn't because I'm the exact same age if you knew anything about me you'd get your facts right before trying to bash me.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 09, 2009 - 5:27PM #35
matt22
Posts: 1941

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:

@Everyone trying to attack me:

1.) Does it hurt to know that a seventeen year old is smarter then you?

2.) The ratings were the same when Double J was around, so I don't know where you are getting they dropped. TNA has always averaged a low 1 rating and that has been consistent through out both Dixie and Double J's reign as head of TNA.

3.) So I'm guessing that is because of Double J? I mean it couldn't have been the talent that was actually being used? Also under Double J I would be forced into watching Sting vs Foley or some form of that in my PPV as a main event. Now if you like two old men who can't go anymore in your main event, fine by me, but as an intelligent person I enjoy seeing the gifted wrestlers used.

4.) The talent wasn't discontent under him because most of the talent was his friends.

5.) Also how is Angelina's visa issues Dixie Carter's fault? Seriously there was nothing TNA could've done because Love was the idiot who decided not to tell them about the problem. I mean what is Dixie Carter psychic? Did she secretly read Love's mind and then say to herself I hope she doesn't tell us about it that way we can fire her? I believe not, but I don't know Dixie personally so I couldn't tell you if she was psychic.

6.) Actually in Double J's plans he would still be feuding with EY, which means EY wouldn't have been apart of WE. So your point in Double J planning WE and EY getting a title is bs because he was scripted to feud with him.

7.) The KO tag titles was said, from various internet sources(i.e Ewrestlingnews.com and wrestlezone.com), that the KO tag titles idea was Dixie's idea. Again she could be psychic and stole Double J's idea.

8.) If I'm pathetic Chloe Brooke how come you mentioned me? I mean when I quote your posts its only because either:

a.) You were being an idiot and praising Love as the best thing to happen to TNA since the departure of Double J.

b.) You praise Double J's booking as if he wasn't the one booking Sting to win every BFG title match he was in.

c.) You post hate threads on Dixie Carter and offer no back up to your opinion other then calling her Dipstick Carter.

d.) All of the above.





Now if any of you want to try and put up a pitiful attempt to attack me/own me I will be more then willing to shut you down. As I am no longer annoyed by a certain individual right now so I am free to own. Although I will warn you anything post at 3:30 eastern time(pm) I will not be able to own you right away as I will be out playing football with my friends. Maybe you'll get lucky and one of them will knock my IQ down to your level. My IQ would only have to drop fifty or so points.


i started this forum to prove jarret is a good competitor which he is and that when he was in charge tna was having better matches then wwe, fact is they still arte, i dont like vince russos storylines or dixies company running but thats my opinion i am in no way shape or form an idiot because you dont like jarrets booking and managment habits, thats your opinion and the fact is i doubt ur smarter then me the fact that ur 7 doesnt come into question because the fact is smarts have nothing to do with forums, ppls arguments are soley opinion based.

2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 09, 2009 - 5:29PM #36
Peter Kaymakcian
Posts: 3899

Nov 9, 2009 -- 5:13PM, ♥Chloe Brooke♥1/2 of Defining Beauty wrote:

Nov 9, 2009 -- 2:38PM, Peter Kaymakcian wrote:

@Everyone trying to attack me:

1.) Does it hurt to know that a seventeen year old is smarter then you?


No it doesn't because I'm the exact same age if you knew anything about me you'd get your facts right before trying to bash me.


Again if you act like an idiot I'm not going to praise you for it. When my brother comes home with a D he doesn't get a pat on the back. Also I was just reading this until you mentioned me, so technically you brought it on yourself.

Wrestler's Name: Peter Kaymakcian
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 225 lbs.
Hometown: Asbury Park, NJ
Billed From: Asbury Park, NJ
Gimmick: A mixture of John Morrison and Edge
Alignment: Heel
Title History:
-CWW World Heavyweight Champion(x1)
-CWW Battlefield World Heavyweight Champion(1x)
-CWW TNW World Heavyweight Champion(1x)
-CWW Cage Champion(x1)
-CWE World Heavyweight Champion(1x)
-CWE Television Champion(x1)
-CWE Tag Team Champion(x2)
-CWE Extreme Champion(1x)
-ICW National Champion(1x)
-ECCW Surrender World Heavyweight Champion(1x)[current]
Other Accomplishment(s):
-CWW Hall of Fame Class 2009
-CWE Hall of Fame Class 2009
-First CWW Triple World Champion
-First ever CWW Battlefield World Champion
-First ever to hold both the CWW Championship and the CWW Battlefield World Championship
-Second CWW Triple Crown Champion
-Last ICW National Champion
Finishers: (Two Finishers max)
-Revolution(Leaping Spike Reverse STO)
-Star Power(corkscrew moonsault)
Move Set:
-Spotlight Kick(Super kick)
-Stunner
-Redemption(Reverse Impaler DDT)
-Southpaw Combo(Three left jabs followed by a right haymaker)
-K-Lock(Front-facelock with a body scissors)
-Tiger Feint Kick into a:
1.)Springboard Hurricanranna
2.)Springboard Legdrop
3.)Springboard Senton
4.)Springboard Drop Kick
5.)Springboard Tornado DDT
6.)Springboard Double Knees to the face
7.)Springboard Super Kick
-Frogsplash
-Rear Naked Choke
-Clothesline
-Spear
-Double Knee Facebuster
-Piledriver
-Sharpshooter
-Neckbreaker
-Figure-Four leglock
-Knife-Edge Chop
-Hurricanranna
-Ankle Lock
-German Suplex
-450 Splash
-Shooting Star Press

Name: Black Liger
Gimmick: Japanese masked wrestler
Titles:
-Lucha Libre Championship(current)
Height: 5'9
Weight: 195 lbs.
Moves:
-Tiger Feint Kick into a:
1.) Springboard Splash
2.) Springboard Leg Drop
3.) Springboard Senton
4.) Springboard Dropkick
5.) Springboard Hurricanranna
6.) Springboard Tornado DDT
-Moonsault
-DDT
-Springboard Roundhouse Kick
-Facebuster
Finisher(s):
Liger Strike(Jumping Cutter)
Liger Bite(Dragon Sleeper)

Wrestler Name: Damien Cain
Gimmick: "Unstoppable" Monster
Height: 7'0"
Weight: 335 lbs.
Titles:
-World Tag Team Championship(current)
Move Set:
-Ballistic Clothesline(High Impact Clothesline)
-Big Boot
-Darkness Kick(Running Big Boot)
-Throat Thrust
-Sidewalk Slam
-Powerslam
-Running Powerslam
-Powerbomb
Finisher(s):
1.) Mark of Cain(360 degree swinging sidewalk slam)
2.) Chokeslam to Hell(Kane's Chokeslam)

Wrestler Name: Diesel
Gimmick: Enforcer/Dominator
Titles:
-Battlefield Championship(1x)
-World Tag Team Championship(current)
Height: 7'0"
Weight: 300 lbs.
Move Set:
-Sidewalk Slam
-Chokeslam{Secondary Finisher}
-Diesel-Plex(Perfect-Plex)
-Spinebuster
-Big Boot
-Leg Drop
-Bear Hug
-Top Rope Elbow Drop(Treated as a finisher)
Finisher(s):
1.) Diesel Bomb(Jackknife Powerbomb)
2.) Spear
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